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Date:     2023-09-18
Title:    Godhead Q&A - "What do you mean by" #0030
Speaker:  Godhead
Church:   What Do You Mean By
Type:     Q&A Session
Duration: 2h 7m
Language: English
URL:      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukqx72QpwMQ
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29 where I go over what is the godhead what's right about the Trinity what's wrong about it what's right about the Oneness what's wrong about that how is what Brother Band taught different than Oneness and such questions as that that's what we'll go through on this live hey Sarah how's it going hello got the beard going godhead questions are welcome people to get here hello hello hello everybody Welcome to the live thank you for joining nice to have everybody here format for the live today I am going to start I will sing a song and then I will pray and then I'll go through these different questions and different things and we'll go from there should go for a goatee maybe I could Levi who knows I don't know I'm not sure not exactly sure we shall see but we will see first in the same song [Music] is the face that I see in the mirror the one I want others to see do I show in the way that I walk in my life the love that you've given to me my heart's desires to be like you and all that I do and all that I am do they see Jesus is they recognize your face do I communicate your love and your grace do they reflect who you are in the way I choose to be do they see Jesus in me well it's amazing that you'd ever use me but use me the way that you will help me to hold out a heart of compassion and Grace a heart that your spirit feels may I show forgiveness and mercy the same way you've shown it to me do they see Jesus in me they recognize your face do I communicate Your Love in Your Grace do I reflect who you are in the way I choose to be do they see Jesus in me do I reflect who you are and the way I choose to be do they see Jesus in me [Music] thank you very good so there's excuses me what's up everybody let me wave to everybody that joined I guess some of them maybe left you but that's fine usually people actually join in towards 10 o'clock but that's fine glad everybody's here what's up how's it going all right so got it q a guys my favorite subject um so I'm gonna pray and I'll get right into it um so we wish someone father thank you for this day and all you've ever given me thank you for all things that are good and wonderful Lord thank you for every life and every good and perfect gift help with a said Lord on this very important topic to be correct and be led by what you want it to be a lord you hear me Lord I ask in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ amen all right so why is David talking about this how is David qualified in this now I'm now I'm no brother Trevor Eamon or I uh by the Lonnie Jenkins or someone like that um I have studied the godhead in the message more than any more than all other doctrines combined um the the guide is really what catapulted me into what I'm doing now and that's more time on it than anything else I have listened to who is this my kisses deck God had the guy that explained Mighty God involved before us the unveiling of God and Christ is the mystery of God revealed over a hundred times each maybe more instead of the church age book about it I have compiled hundreds probably a couple thousand quotes and scriptures concerning the subject and any answer that I give I'm trying to base it in uh the scriptures of the Bible I am not saying I'm anyone I just happen to be someone that has studied this I have a folder where I have literally probably a couple hundred different search inquiries about the godhead someone's saying something wrong about it is what activated predestinated state of me be to uh 100 preaching other things like that and yeah I know the beer this looks glorious I know um but uh there's uh we'll be doing other in-depth studies as well I want to do one on the guided later on with someone like whether Trevor or brother Jason Demars or someone like that at a later point and um maybe a couple of months after I do a live where we're going through what is the message I want to do it like that because a lot of people came on here and asked what do you mean by message kits what is this message that you guys refer to and you really shouldn't and can't respond to that and answer that in one paragraph you really can't it's so encapsulating so I'm gonna have someone like brother Jason Mars but Louis arago but the Trevor even someone maybe even brother Bob black so I don't know someone like that to come on and say you know do an in-depth explanation of what is the message and I want to maybe take some time out and do it pretty thoroughly so that and explain it to everyone is if they've never heard of what the message even is it'll help people that don't know about the message people that just doing a little bit and people that are even in the message you know it'll help a lot lord of the line also like serpent seed baptism salvation baptism the Holy Ghost continuing I'm like do I have the Holy Ghost how do I know things like that so what's up Eli how's it going so those of you wondering who are you to talk about this I think your brother Brian said any son or daughter God filled with the Holy Ghost and um they surrender themselves to God as omnipotent if you take any of the words of God and speak it through your lips it's the same as deity speaking um if I'm wrong about any of these things please you're anybody's more than welcome to show me in the Bible the quotes or the scriptures or anything like that where I am wrong I'm not saying my opinion because I don't get an opinion on this this is really important and I don't have a thought coming I don't have a oh this is what David thinks this is not that I've compiled and copied and pasted hundreds of quotes probably a couple thousand not even kidding into wordpads concerning this and uh it's very important and one thing is not to get confused in with the weeds and the semantics of what do you mean by Sun what do you mean by this we can get through those things and we can look at them but but the but uh you know there's different ways of looking at it the definition of and if you guys have any questions please please please submit them in I want this to be collaborative any questions you have about it anything at all um the definition of godhead is uh godhead refers to the essence or substance of God and Christianity God the Father the Son and Holy Spirit of course and there are two major ways that people look at it people look at it all different ways but there's two major ways there's Trinity it was Oneness and are they both right well they both can't be right or they both wrong who knows but the Branham said you know the questions and answers in Hebrews number two someone actually asked for the Branham and they said please explain the Trinity how can the sun sit at the right hand of the father interceding for to the father if they are not two persons well beloved friend that's uh that's that's a revelation if Jesus said I and my father are one then how could they be two see they're not two now they're not two a woman someone said to me and I was explaining that said you and your wife are are two yet you're one I said but God and the son is different from that see I said you see me yes do you see my wife no I said then father and son's different Jesus said when you see me you've seen the father see the father and the son the father was almighty god Jehovah dwelling in a tabernacle called Jesus Christ which was the anointed Son of God Jesus was a man God says God is a spirit and no man has seen God at any time but the only begotten of the father has declared him he was he his personality his being his deity whatever he was he was God he was nothing less or nothing more than God yet he was a man he was a man a house that God dwelt in that's right he was God's dwelling place so what are some ways we could look often when I'm trying to figure out or know what should what way should I look at these things I can think well what would be the wrong way so a wrong way would be to say Jesus is his own father that's wrong the other wrong way would be to say that there's an eternal sonship because the Bible said that doesn't even make sense how can you be a son and be Eternal something's got to be created for there to be a son and remember this is by uh this is by Revelation this is not an intellectual thing I believe God give me the revelation of this do I want to heard it wrong it's less like Wait no that's not correct I'm not going to pay any attention how many blonde hair I don't care I mean I mean we have like we had like five people within 10 people than 15 and 20 with brother Trevor and now it's got almost 500 views so I really don't care how many people are on I'm gonna do my best so um I can unpack this some and try and explain how it all works together according to the scriptures in the message and the best I can do according to the scriptures and the sermons and stuff like that that I've heard and said it but this isn't to argue it's just to help I'm not saying what I think I don't have a thought coming I may have it I don't have an opinion on the guy that I have a different way of explaining it or different semantics or whatever but I'm just gonna go with what the Brandon said and the Revelation but this is my Revelation the only thing actually the only direction that I'd be with the band went forward to it and said you don't need a revelation to believe it right is the baptism because it's literally staring you in the face the church's book so if you go through here and questions are welcome guys any questions that you have what's up sweet pea no that is oh boy um so what is the Trinity let's Google this guys let's see what Google we'll give Google their best shot here what is the trinity so the trinity in Christian doctrine is acuted doctrines commonly expressed as the statement that got one God and this makes sense right remember guys this makes sense that one God exists as or in three equally defined persons the Father the Son of the Holy Spirit okay beautiful um so now we leave the message right so brother Branham actually had a guy and who is Marcus to come to him saying that and uh the guy said yeah call me brother I want to be straight in the guided so he said uh one God three persons and brother Brandon said to be a person you have to have a personality and if a person with a personality then you're a separate individual being so Trinity is wrong because they make Jesus in Eternal sonship what's up Joel how's it going welcome to the line any questions or welcome by the way so Trinity's wrong I'm gonna make Jesus and eternal Sanji they say oh there's this father God Son God Holy Spirit God the sun God's always existed how did he die you can't kill a God right how is your son that he has never created he was eternal so there's these different things it just it just doesn't line up it just doesn't make sense so how's the Trinity right there's three there may be three main offices of God three main manifestations of God but how could he be three persons in one to my dad I am a son to Thomas I my brother to uh my little nephew Caleb I am Uncle David and my three different persons no my three different manifestations of the same person one to each office of people yeah and that's the exactly where the brother described it with being a husband father and a brother so the Oneness is also wrong because they make an eternal sonship they say that Jesus was eternal God just became a man maybe pretended to die and then he rose again but Jesus had to be a Kinsmen Redeemer to us they had to be kin folks to us so the one that says you know like that the uh Jesus was his own father that couldn't be right he couldn't create himself so what's the truth on it remember it's by revelation and remember I'd rather be right in my spirit and wrong in my Doctrine than to be right in my Doctrine and wrong in my spirit and if you guys are liking this by the way the hearts that you send the hundreds that you send the fires all the different things really encourages me nothing is more discouraging and harder on me than just silence in the chat it's hard on me okay makes these real people thumbs up or fire emojis or something to encourage it's like you know so like the one that says that Jesus is an internal son but something had to be created so that something could die and so the two main questions that came in today the neckline link are how is brother branham's teaching on the god different from Oneness and if the person the Lord Jesus Christ is a created being are we breaking the first and second commandments by worshiping them good questions so as far as the first one husband bam is teaching and the god are different from Oneness it's different because the Oneness says that there's an eternal son we don't maybe they've got there's three offices of God God is the father over the new over the Old Testament and the Jehovah is the oldest the Jesus of the new and then there's um and then God creates himself as a human being in the move of Mary both blood and egg both um so the way brother Jason Demars I I literally sent a message for the Jason to Mars November of 2021 asking about this and he says thanks for the David great Thor any question for sure Jesus is both God and man Trinity Oneness and the message all say that but how they say that is what makes us distinct to answer directly Jesus was born a man who had to grow in wisdom and stature and in favor with God and Men he had his own will and own mind and own mind he was the son of God at his baptism the fullness of God came into him the Virgin birth made in the Son of God which means he is the DNA or genetics of God from birth he is the image of God and the blood of God from his baptism to Gethsemane God lived on him is in fullness Jesus Is God because he was the DNA of god Jehovah in the manger and because God dwelt in him from baptism to Gethsemane it's not two Lords or it's not two Lords or two persons Jesus is the person of the godhead God is spirit and Jesus is the image slash person slash face of God they say this is the subject of a hard time understanding so this is good stuff well thank you as I appreciate it remember it's not my understanding it's by Revelation when Revelation pray to God about it it is not by understanding I can show you different ways if there's different ways to say that like say what what parts about it have confused you like like put it in the chat because I guarantee that every and thousands of other people millions billions of other people have had the same um way of looking at the word they're like what about this and what about that so what ways for you guys has been um confusing on the garden I guess what's up Caitlin what's up Elaine so what's up sir hope cross hello welcome to the live so we don't believe that Jesus was his own father but at the same time we don't believe Jesus was a separate person and you say well David how in the world does that work and I would ask you what do you mean by person to be a person you have a personality and to be a person with a personality you got to do your own will if you only do the will of the of someone else and you never do Your Own Thing are you a different person so one of the common things people say is who is Jesus praying to In The Garden of Gethsemane not my will Lord but let thy will be done brother Branham said it was the father and son talking all the time there's two persons it's exact quote ish the difference is Jesus never did his own well Jesus said I do nothing except what my father shows me so whoever this person is called Jesus yes he's a man yes he grows as a man but he only ever does the will of God ever he doesn't ever do his own thing ever so you can even say that his own thing is god brother said that body was God and someone says oh you can't kill God but what do you mean by God what is God God is a spirit what are you are you a spirit or are you flesh if you're dead and I look at you in a ask it and I cry because you're gone and your bodies in front of me in a casket and your spirit's up in heaven where are you oh well I'm uh in heaven and my body's on Earth are you two persons but you say oh well God's in heaven his son is on Earth the two separate persons right but then the Bible says all that God was he poured into Christ it pleased that him in in Jesus all the fullness of the Goddess so whoever this person is when he's baptized all of them all of God is there let's see was there a personification of God watching Jesus from Heaven during his life good point what do you mean by uh by Heaven what does that mean because Jesus tells Nicodemus in John chapter 3. son of man which is before you and then he goes a little later a while later says and the son of man which is in heaven heaven isn't a Faraway place it's uh it's in a different dimension so I could ask you where is your soul say where is your soul and your spirit are they physical things in your mind like do you do surgery to replace your spirit or replace your soul or are they in you but there are different domain they're in a different dimension but they're part of you if it's different dimension in body Jesus was man and he has his own Spirit as a man but in flesh but in the spirit he was God let's see I'm going to pull up the quote brother Branham said and show us the father and it suffices us remember guys I'm not saying I know I don't know all about this this is just this thing I've studied the most and I can just do my best for brother Adam said even God didn't recognize the Flesh of his own son to give him Free Will for whatever he did and hear ye him that's what it is so here you him 1957. brother Branham says that the word of God which is infallible proves that Jesus Christ didn't heal Nobody Until God showed him a vision on what to do find one place in the Bible where a prophet ever did anything without showing him what to do it's not man it's God and you can think of those other prophets Jonah Ryan from God Moses Hit The Rock when he was supposed to speak to it David did stuff with Bathsheba has Uriah killed still prophets the difference is the next line it's not man it's God even God didn't recognize the Flesh of his own son to give him Free Will for whatever he did he did just as the father told him so you can say oh my father if it would be possible let this cup pass from me and say that that's a separate person but I'm going to say what makes a person how is Jesus a different person than the father when he's not doing his own thing that's separate from God you remember this is about Revelation this is not by understanding and I feel nervous feeling in my stomach trying to talk about it because it's by revelation we can't understand in our natural Minds the things of the things of God like this this is like eternity so he was God but it was man because he created being he could feel pain he could be weak and all these different things but the spirit he was still God it's a revelation and you know there's a man that set called around one side one time he said brother Brandon we refuse all Revelation and by the Bible said then you have to refuse Jesus Christ and they said what do you mean it's like well if you make Jesus Christ and make him a second person a third person or any person other than God himself you're lost how did Brother Bear say that when another place brother Bynum said they're not two persons or there's two persons talking all the time the father and the son it's because these are terms these are different ways of looking at it these are semantics and they're not uh when we say person we're not referring to a person that does their own thing Jesus didn't ever do his own thing Joel wants to join I can have Joel join if you'd like if it would work for me that'd be great is it going to work okay it has to work what's up Joel did you all leave hold on let me figure this out all right well he requests to join then he's back hold on Joel I don't know why it's not letting you leave or letting you join but secure invite it working all right he left again I don't know what it is um but as you have to have any follow-up questions please let me know so it's a um the Soul by revelation God did not send someone else to die for him brother said that there wasn't an angel or another person in heaven or even a son that he could send God himself he creates both egg and blood cell in the womb of Mary someone was born named the Lord Jesus Christ he learns as a man he cries as a man he feels as a man but yet his DNA his being whatever he is is God his uh his personality is God when he's 12 years old he's confounding everyone all the time like don't you know I'm supposed to be about my father's business pretty stuck in the the uh the Pharisees and the Sadducees and like who is this kid he's 12 years old talking to us like this so is God and what do you mean by God because you know someone asks like if the person the Lord Jesus Christ is a creative being are we breaking the first second commandments by worshiping him you know like don't worship anyone besides thou shall have no other gods before me we're not breaking those commitments by worshiping Jesus Christ because Jesus didn't stop it before she worshiping him in person he doesn't say hey wait don't worship me I'm just God's son and I'm not God he didn't he didn't stop them um well Joe wanted to join but then he stopped that's fine it's all good so let's see here is this all good today is this is this good guys please put some amens in the chat or some fire little emojis or whatever you guys do if you want to if you're liking it what's up Lillian how's it going I'm Gail and Greeley thank you so Jesus is not his own father but yet is he the father it's a revelation remember I can't put this there's no way that I can put this into words to encapsulate the whole thing to make it where everybody understands it it's by revelation he's not another person the one this is wrong with saying no God didn't create another didn't create a man he became a man and then died it just isn't create correct it is a way of explaining it sure but then just baptize in the name of Jesus and along with that comes uh though the the the evidence of the receiving the Holy Spirit speaking in tongues and things like that as well um but you know Jesus is not his own father he is a father brother said when we say father it's Jesus Remember these things are titles son of man Son of God Son of David titles it Jesus was not a son of God like I am to my dad the difference is is that one I'm not the DNA of God in the same way Jesus was I wasn't virgin born and I have made mistakes and I have defied my father in my life but the Branham said and Jesus said I do nothing except what my father shows me and but the Branham says even God didn't recognize the Flesh of his own son to give him Free Will for whatever he did he only did what the father showed him ever then Jesus there's another place in the Bible that says then Jesus cried with the loud voice saying he had dissent or he says uh see what are his exact words you know what let me get that right that's what he said um he if she pull up the scripture here my own voice and I'm kind of winging this so I guess I'm I'm still you know kind of winging it but I have listened to several different sermons hundreds of times about this grab a live life what's up Ruth how's it going foreign subject this is something that I take really seriously and I don't want to say it super wrong Jesus was God but yet he wasn't God are you Spirit or are you flesh you're still God for the Bible said Jesus was God 32 times but the Benham said Jesus Is God seven times I don't know why I remember those statistics but I do um see there's a certain spot which Jesus says um there's there's a good spot Jesus says if you've seen me remember one of his disciples comes to him they're confusing like bro I've been with you for so long and we want to know show us the father what does Jesus say father's up in heaven I'm just the son you know but my father's over there no we didn't so that you've seen me have you have you been with me so long and you're still you're asking me show me show us the father if you've seen me you've seen the father so why you ask you show us the father remember spice forever relation what's up guys welcome to the live show when they ask how is it but the bands hey what's up Daniel how's it going we're talking about a very serious subject got it it's good it's a good uh it's a good topic though it's it's very very important very important so there's different points where you can challenge someone who wants to say other different persons so the father is wanting to go above you and be all judgy of you all the time be in judgment the sun is just all Grace and the Holy Spirit someone that just wants to come into you and to help you it's different you know they're separating into different beings the one instagram because they make Jesus an eternal being when it was created why so that he could die something was created in Jesus so that in flesh he could die remember Jesus's Spirit goes down into hell takes back the keys of death Hell In The Grave when he dies takes all of our sins upon him came down lived a perfect life and we came down live sinful lives so that our sins could be placed on him so that when Jesus God looks at Jesus or when God looks at us he sees the life that Jesus lived when he looked at Jesus he looks and when he um looks at Jesus he sees the lives the life that all the Sinners lived and there's different points um Isaiah 46 and 9 remember the former things of old for I am God and there is none else I am God and there is none like me what does this Trinity trying to do it tries to make God into separate persons oh there's three of them oh the father talking to the son I am God and there's no one like me so whenever Isaiah wrote the scripture there's no one like God at this point maybe Jesus was created later then they say in the in the Genesis they say oh well what about when um and by the way this is me just winging this I don't have notes all written down I just have the uh the intro um when they said what about when uh Jesus said when God says in the uh Old Testament the Genesis let us make man in our own image and after our own likeness if you notice the next sentence it doesn't say then they created God in there they grabbed man in their own likeness and their own image says then God created man after his own image and after his own language but the Branham said that they were actually talking he was actually talking to the angels when he said that foreign says no man had seen God at any time only the begotten only begotten of the son have declared him and Jesus saying if you've seen me you've seen the father these are terms what's the father it's the spirit who is there's another point you can go through with trinitarians is who is the father of Jesus is the Holy Spirit and then I'll say God which would he God the Father well the Bible says that Jesus was born of the holy spirit so you have two fathers so it's it's all by revelation that's put let's see what other ways can I approach this um Ephesians 4 and 5 there's one body or what uh verse patients who four and four there's one body and one Spirit even easier called in one hope of your calling one Lord One Faith one baptism one God and Father of all who is bubble and through all and in you all but unto everyone of us is giving grace to the measure of the gift of Christ hello what's up um so the notice in any false Doctrine all that they want to do is and why they yes like I like to expose things or like to speak about things that are obvious I'm kind of tripping up over everything because I don't want to say anything incorrect because this is very correct this is very needful it's very necessary and it's very validation I can't explain a revelation to you I can try to explain different of the different um ways that these things interact with each other but I can't uh can't explain Revelation guys Jesus was God this is another place in 59 he said but when it comes to the Plan of Redemption he came along nobody was with him it was the only one that could come an angel couldn't do it another man called his son couldn't do it one called something else a holy virgin or a holy mother or some Saint couldn't do it God had to come I'll give you the sign a virgin so I can see even the baby will be born he will be Emmanuel God With Us the super signed God and his people God with his people God become his people God and man become one a stumbling block to the world but a blessed hope for the believer a sign that will be evil spoken of so there you go I mean it's a revelation in my mind and it is can be tough to understand if you guys have any more questions about it any more uh questions about different what's it been like for you guys what is something about the godhead that you've always wondered about like what is what is the truth on that um what about you guys what do you what do you guys think about it what is something that has been hard for you to uh to see or understand or I don't know have Revelation or whatever else okay I found the other other verse John 12 and 44. I was looking for it earlier but I found it described and said he that believeth on me believeth not on me but on him that sent me and he that seeth me seeth him that sent me I am come a light into the world that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness so whoever this person is the son or God or whatever you want to call it over the sun is when you see Jesus you're seeing the father but is not the father you know it's a it's a difficult thing what do you guys think what questions do you guys have what uh what questions you guys have send them away um someone asked how we differ the BAM said um how what brother brand am I differed from the Trinity or from the uh Oneness and other one of the main things was that uh brother Branham uh baptized the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and they just baptized in the name of Jesus but there's many jesuses but there's only one Lord Jesus Christ what's up Mark McNulty welcome to the live what about you mark what uh what do you think about this guided thing of the stuff that's confused you or questions you've got I'm not here saying I know anything I'm just copied and pasted a lot of quotes what's up brother Trevor she could talk about this stuff I've kind of hit a uh a wall because I've got like one question the whole time from people there's nothing there's no uh q a if there's no questions coming in so for the chair if you want you could join us whatever whatever you want to do what's up Evan welcome welcome little live I guess I could go through what okay so here's what I heard on the godhead when I was younger that was incorrect so now there's different ways looking at this there's the uh it's my Revelation and um I'm good thanks just passing through okay cool okay someone once told me they believed in God the father and his son the Lord Jesus Christ and that didn't quite seem correct to me because it doesn't seem according to the scripture and I tried talking to them and they would say oh what about um what about my kids who was that and um I would go through and I'd say oh well brother Branham said in who is this Melchizedek you know that because it was God and a father and mother he had the beginning of days nor ending of life so he was God and these things are not my understanding guys I mean I can go through all the different details but I can't explain it to you I can't tell you all this this this this and then this and this and this and then then you understand it a lot I can't I don't know all about it I can only do my best according to what I've read and heard um what do you guys think what are you guys ask questions please send them in which do you guys have any questions about the garden whatsoever what do you guys ask questions let's see who do we who do we have with me here Lillian Mary Evan Grace what questions do you guys have because a lot of the suspicions of the questions that came in I already answered those I mean to me when it comes to the stuff if brother bam said something about it I'm just going to go with that and then go from there and that's about as complicated as I get with this stuff what's up Levi well you know Paul Levi what do you think of the beard lever I think it's good I think it's terrible what what do you think instead of talking about it why don't I just show you guys what I'm talking about when I say uh when I say I've done a lot of study on the guided let me show you guys what I mean by that so this is from page 14 to now of about 37 nuts and got hit study and this one is the most this is just one of them there's like a ton it is just scrolling and scrolling and scrolling there's a ton of this there's a ton of different ways to look at this that I could go through and that's not even a big one the big one is the uh is the godhead one where I have just completed notes about it and now it has over 70 notes with different ways of looking at this different quotes different scriptures um where the Bantam went through it's not understanding guys this is just by revelation I mean okay will okay well what is the godhead can you explain it I can tell you some stuff about it I can't explain it to you I can try I can give you some pointers uh what is the continent can you explain it okay well the godhead is there's actually a item the god the definite the I had a there we go I found it definition of God it is it refers to the essence for substance of God and Christianity God the father son of the Holy Spirit prayed quick I don't know what I'm a preacher guys so that means that whenever I'm talking about something God is either leading me or he's not he's either anointing me or he's not I'm either on inspiration or I'm not I don't know what God wants me to do in this I believe it easily I'm gonna do that but I'm just going to pray and then I'll keep going I said Lord it could be the Lord Jesus Christ this is a really serious subject Lord an Institute speak through me Lord my voice is insufficient but I do have I give them to you so Lord help me just relax and to explain this the way that you want me to using quotes scriptures all these different things school this father and the Lord Jesus Christ amen amen so I'm gonna do my best there's two major ways of looking at the godhead there's the Trinity and there's the Oneness Trinity says one God and three persons one that says eternal sonship both sides are wrong because they say there's an eternal sonship or the brand of taught that Jesus was not his own father yet that spirit that was in him was God Almighty Jesus was a man sure he was but that spirit that was in him was God Almighty brother Branham that's another section of the Bible quote but the Branham said in I believe it was oh let's see if my memory starts around here guys where the Burnham said in the dot I believe it was adoption number one uh nature remember that I'm not wanting to hurt you but how in the name of the good word of God could you ever Place Jesus being a separate person from God himself um let's see if I was right from my memory here let's see if I can find this there we go oh I was one sermon off okay there's adoption number two not want to hurt you but how in the name of the good word of God could you ever Place Jesus being a separate person from God himself if Jesus could take another person and they can go and die to redeem this person here he would be an unjust being there's only one way that God could ever do it would be take the place himself and God became flesh that he might taste Pains of death to take the sting and death away from us that we might be Redeemed by man or Redeemed by his own that's why he will be so worshiped Jesus was a man sure he was he was a man m-a-n born in the Virgin Mary but the spirit that was in him was God without measure in him dwelt the fullness of the godhead bodily he was Jehovah Jireh who was the Jehovah Rapha he was Jehovah Manassas he was Jehovah our Shield our buckler our healer he was Alpha Omega the beginning and the end he was the first the last he was which is and shall come the root and offspring of David the Morning Star where he was all in all in him dwelt the fullness of the godhead bodily in the Old Testament when you look at God it says I am the first and I am the last and in the New Testament in Revelations he says it is done I am Alpha and Omega the beginning and the end the first and the last so whether it's Jesus or the father of God or whatever these are titles father son Holy Ghost it's titles to who they are I am brother son Uncle my name is not brother son Uncle God is Father Son and Holy Ghost his name is not father son Holy Ghost these are offices these are these are um these are manifestations of what God himself to his people and this is not just a doctor this is God wanting to reveal himself to his people in these different ways to help us brother man was said and that there's only one way provided by God for anything Jesus Christ is God and flesh we know that no argument about that he wasn't just a prophet he was God God made manifest in the flesh who's God and it seems like oh you're just repeating the same thing over and over again like yeah it's by Revelation this is not something where I'm gonna this is not algebra guys as complicated as algebra is you can understand it you can't understand this the God it is the thought of separating God into separate beings and trying to take God and explain him he's by Revelation he's not known by understanding and intellectual conception God is known by Revelation so you want to know more what the god did yeah listen to sermons say about it but Above All Else pray God will show you because why do we care so much about this why does it why does Satan want people to believe that God is three separate persons why does it say you want people to believe that Jesus was his own father because Satan wants to separate God see he wants people to believe the wrong thing so the place where the Bible said and questions and answers and Hebrews number one and Jesus came to spake and his disciples spake unto them saying all power is given unto me in heaven and in Earth where's the father's power if all the power on Earth and hit in Heaven and Earth is give to Jesus God got powerless then didn't he or did he just tell a story or was he joking he meant it don't you believe he meant it it will fall power is given unto him where it's God's power at then he was God it's exact there's only one thing there is to it that's all there was see he was God or there's somebody set there that did have some power don't have any more see so you can't he can't confuse it through the same person and you can this is not something I can explain though I mean I've said that several times but I can't explain it to you it's by Revelation guys it's not a it's not my understanding you can ask you can answer different questions about the semantics of it but let's say I got another question that came in I'm gonna go check it someone asked what is the godhead well the God is the universal beliefment there's God is he a trinity or is he one God and three persons why is that wrong why would that be wrong because God is in three persons he's the same person God isn't some father up and above you saying follow my word and then his son that says do whatever you want I don't care I died for you and then the holy spirit that wants to come into your life and change it is the same person is God old is God above us God With Us God and it's all that God was the important of Christ and all that Christ was he pointed to the church the Bible says deity is not in heaven it's in you where is God at now he is in his people in the form of the Holy Spirit deity is not in heaven it's in you so where is God now he's in his people there's definitely different ways of looking at it different ways of approaching it um I'm the scholar I'm Noah I'm not qualified with the rest of these other guys um I can try I mean my best if you want uh if you want quotes or scriptures for any of these things I can give them to you uh Super Signs where brother Branham said um that the Angels were with him when he said let us make man our own image that's that's where everybody said that um exposition of the seven Church ages the revelation of Jesus Christ yes if there were three Gods you might very well baptized for a father and to son and a holy ghost but the Revelation given to John was that there is one God and his name is Lord Jesus Christ and you're baptized for one God and only one that is why Peter baptized the way he did at Pentecost he had to be true to the Revelation which was let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God hath made that same Jesus whom you have crucified both Lord and Christ there he is the Lord Jesus Christ if Jesus is both Lord and Christ then he Jesus is and cannot be else but father Son and Holy Ghost and one person manifest In the Flesh it is not one God and three God and three persons bless his Trinity but one God one person with three major titles with three offices manifesting these those titles hear it once more this same Jesus is both Lord in Christ Lord father in Christ Holy Spirit are Jesus for he Jesus is both of them Lord in Christ if that doesn't show us the true Revelation that the godhead nothing will Lord is not another one Christ is not another one this Jesus is the Lord Jesus Christ one God and where the Oneness gets it wrongs they make Jesus an eternal son they make it where he always existed he didn't he was created so that he could die and we baptized not just in the title The Name of Jesus but in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ Trinity gets it wrong saying there's an eternal father an eternal son an eternal Holy Spirit when the every time quantity of how many gods there are is mentioned every single time across the entire Bible it says there's only one God mentions the different titles and the different manifestations like in the greetings where it says greetings to you from God the father and from a son the Lord Jesus Christ but it's not saying from God the Father hi Father and it's the Lord Jesus Christ hi son nice talking to you there are different offices there are different titles there are different manifestations of the same God to his people it is not another person in Jesus Jesus was not his own father he had his own will the reason why he's not a person that will say hi Jesus nice talking to you you're not going to talk to your father now is because he didn't do his own will because he was God almighty so there you go I I can't there's different ways of approaching but I can't approach in different ways if there's no questions coming in um maybe I'll do a more structured one of these in a layer Point people ask more questions depending on it um but uh if people want me to do this I need them to send in questions I pretty much if people want me to do these things then I'll bring questions for it um if people want me to do a thorough examination and complete uh explaining of it I can try that's not my office to do I'm not a teacher my point was just to try to help and answer questions that I have thousands of quotes or hundreds probably a few thousand quotes compiled about this subject there's so many of these but really it's my Revelation guys you know it's a thank you that helped oh well thanks sister I'm glad you liked it every night I only I only go as I feel led and I don't feel God leading me to go forward with this right now for one because I'm just not getting them anymore uh questions coming in which is fine it's all good no one did anything wrong it's all good what about you Evan do you have any questions at all anything anybody John how long you've been going how long have I been going 50 minutes with almost no notes whatsoever it actually feels like a long time it doesn't feel like that long it feels like it is super good but I I suppose I had like literally no notes like literally my all my only notes was one quote one definition of the word and that was it meals as well oh wow I missed it all yeah John you kind of did but hey I'm curious John what is your question about the godhead you can you can submit it you can put it on there um I didn't go through every single way of uh of uh answering it I would I really just went through the basics honestly in all honesty I have another question hold on oh okay so I got a good question explain John 17 5 which scripture is that let's see John 17 5. let's see what question it is I guess I just spilled some soda on my desk so yeah I'm gonna grab a napkin here so I don't kill all my electronics yeah you know what it'll probably be fine John 17-5 let's see John 17 5. all right let's do it let's put this in context John chapter 17. don't think I have questions sounds like fair enough John but this is good John chapter 17. the words speak Jesus I'm besides to heaven and said father The Hours come glorify thy son that thy son Also may glorify thee as thouest giveth in Power Over All Flesh that he should give Eternal to life to as many as thou has given him and this is eternal life eternal that they might Know Thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou has sent I have glorified thee on the earth I have finished the work the work which thou gavest me to do and now oh Father glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was foreign I don't know what you mean by explain it do you mean like say like uh how does that not prove that they're separate people or like there's a trinity um glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was well that would all depend on what you think Jesus meant when he said glorify thou me what does that mean really give him glory all right it depends which way you're approaching it when Jesus talks about himself and the father he doesn't talk about himself and father as like different beings and different things he that seeth me see at him that sent me he that loveth me loveth him that sent me he that seeth me see it the father if you love me you love my father same to you you know let's see another question hold on another question fair enough it's all good I mean I uh let me read this one hold on here's another way of approaching this Jesus says in verse 21 the they all may be one as thou father art in me and I am thee that they also may be one in us that the world may believe that thou has sent me the glory which thou gave us me I have given them they may be one even as we are one depends on what you mean by Glory Jesus said I pray father that we would be one that might die that they would be one as we are one that's as the people would be one with c as I am with the what do they mean by that where you only do the will of the father and not your own will so the question came in hold on one second okay so the scripture makes it seem as if he was there with the father before the world was well it depends on what you mean by with the father before the world was because Jesus isn't his own father he's created he's a created son created beings that he could die right and the Benham said and who is this Melchizedek I believe Jesus in God's mind guide before the foundation of the world so when you're looking at it you could say that when Jesus says glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was think of the way he's wording it here glorify me he's not saying glorify me with the glory I had with you before the world was he said glorify thou meet with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was that's a good scripture I mean I I'd have to get into what you mean by glorify thou me and what do you mean my father foreign glorify mean we can I guess we could look that up of course it's very subjective as well it's interesting I I don't know what you mean by before the world was or by uh glorify about me I'm not sure what that means you can say oh it's insinuating that the father was there before the or the sum was there with the father before the world was what do you mean by the Sun that would be a really good question what does that person who ever ask that what do you mean by the Sun it's whoever he is he's not his own person he doesn't do his own will you can almost say that Jesus I don't know guys it's about Revelation where this is not a it's just not a uh this is not something that can be explained this is about Revelation what's up Hannah Kinser how's it going welcome to life I don't know guys I don't I don't know all things I don't know all the answers to all the questions this is by revelation I mean uh we know that Jesus was not his own father he was created he's not a separate person from God yet at the same time he had to learn as a person and he wasn't his own father it's by Revolution and so you know I would have anybody show me where Jesus ever did anything that wasn't the will of God yeah we show show me where God the Bible ever says Jesus and God are two separate beings or show me where it says you know like there's two gods or where Jesus does his own thing to be a person you've got to have a personality and you gotta have your own way of doing things the separate from others what's up Gloria Isaiah Gloria Lillian Evan Daniel porshas Salem what's up Salem how's it going so I mean I've this is by Revelation because I can't go through everything what are the questions you guys have what did you guys think I mean I seemed to be a you know this is what happens when you do a guided q a with David and only three questions are sent in that's fine oh it's all it's all good it's all fine um the question that came in no okay whatever that's fine glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was what do you mean about the glory that I had with thee it wouldn't make sense I'll say it this way do pretty good have a gym doing great it wouldn't make sense for it to be that Jesus before the foundation of the world had some glory and the father also had some Glory because for when Jesus was created and also because Isaiah 42 and 9 says I am the Lord that is my name and my glory will I not give to another neither my praise to give graven images thou shall have no I live in Exodus 29 that shall have no other gods before me there's no other gods before me no one else gets Glory but me so was God lying when he said I'm the and I will not share my glory with another because the scriptures don't contradict each other remember they blend in they don't contradict they dovetail they've got a dovetail so don't contradict they'd have to so yeah I don't know it's uh spare Revelation is this God in three different offices it is not three persons three offices how would you explain Revelation to someone that's a good question Lillian that's a really good question how would you explain Revelation to someone oh how would I explain that it's it's God revealing himself to you Revelation is God showing himself to you it is some and once you have Revelation you can't be convinced out of a revelation you can't be if you can't change your mind they can't ever someone can't change your mind when you have a revelation it's a revelation it's God revealing himself to you so it's uh it's not produced by Steady um it's Revelation it's a something that you know God told you and you can't change it um someone said another question I'll be right back let's see so remember guys when the Bible says Son of God it's not not meaning a different person it's a manifestation in the beginning God was Elohim a self-existing one creates people and all that it saves and becomes a savior Christ people becomes a father creates himself as a human being would it be really hard to understand that God creates man in his own emotion after his own likeness and then he creates himself in the womb of Mary after his own image and after his own likeness someone said the son meaning Jesus Christ the son of God well yeah but I would say what do you mean by Jesus Christ someone says I've heard different views on this within the message I've heard some say that three offices were subsequent and others say that the three offices are held at the same time while they were in God's mind uh Evan um before the foundation of the world they were uh they were in God's mind um it was uh it was in God to be father to be son to be a holy ghost to be a savior to be a Healer to be a judge to be an executioner to be a warrior to be all these different things it was within God and then the time when he manifests these goes through time it begins as the father he creates himself with Mary he becomes a son and then he all that God was he poured into Christ he's the son of God and then all the Christ was he forces of the church and then he is the holy spirit but the Bible said deity is not in heaven we're not going to go and we're not thinking right now oh I can't wait to go where God is in heaven but the Bible said deity is not in heaven it's in you someone says the sun meaning Jesus Christ the son of God also John 12 and 41 is interesting as well let's go to that John 12 and 41 what's up Ruth Coleman welcome to live and sister just passing through hello thank you for just passing through John 12 and 41 are you sure you mean to John 12 and 41 whoever sent that in because it's uh John 12 41 because John 12 and 41 is uh these things said to zious when he saw his glory and speak of him do you mean first John 12 and 41 let's try that first John yeah what's up Abigail how's it going welcome to the live okay let's see John 12 and 41 is I don't think that's the one okay but actually that goes right into it because verse 40 4 is Jesus cried and said he that believeth on me believeth and not on me but on him that sent me think of that if they're separate people if they're separate being separate persons why is Jesus saying because in verse 4 42 it says nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believe in them but because of the Pharisees they did not confess unless they should be put out of the synagogue For the Love of the praise of men more than the praise of God but Jesus cried and said he that believeth on me believeth not on me but on him that sent me and he that seeth me seeth him that sent me I thought Jesus is the son of God this person that's going to save us and the father some Far Away person some different entirely different person and Jesus is saying he that believeth on me he doesn't he isn't Believing on the son he's bleeding on the one that sent me what's up Josh welcome to the line how's it going what do you think Josh see verse 46 I am come a light into the world that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness and if any man hear my words and believe it or not I judge him not for I came not to judge the world but to save the world and he that rejecteth me and receiveth not more test one that judgeth him the word that I have spoken the same shall judge him in the last day I have not for I have not spoken to myself but the Father which sent me he gave me a commandment what I should say and what I should speak and I know that his commandment is life Everlasting whatsoever I speak therefore even as the father said unto me so I speak brother by himself said that Jesus never said the saith the Lord because he was the Lord think of that he that believeth on me believeth not on me that sent me so you could say in this way he that believeth on the Son of God believeth not from the Son of God but on the father because we say that when Jesus is saying on me we're saying the son of that means the Son of God and him that sent me means the father so Jesus is saying if you're believing in the Son of God you're believing in the father another way of looking at it is where Jesus says uh this is the question that you hold on is it the place where it says um first John 2 and 22. this is a good scripture as well I've actually had someone tried to use this to try to say there was multiple Lords in the godhead um who is a liar but he that denieth the Jesus is the Christ he is Antichrist at the ninth the father and the son whosoever denieth the son the same hath not the father but he that acknowledgeth the son hath the father also so you can't acknowledge one without having the other interesting changing of masks is how it's described to his acoustic yeah John seriously there's different ways of describing it siblings for the band described it changing of a mask is one way changing of yourself is another way God amorph it God massed in a pillar of Fire God masked and A Man Called Jesus God massed God and morph It In A Man Called Jesus 1965 or 221 what's up Laura Jones welcome to life so there's changing of masks there's creating there remember there's a little bit David Morrisons told me never try to explain this Goddard thing as a in just one way there are several different ways of looking at it you can look at it as the unveiling of God God unveiling more of himself God creates Jesus as a person God changes himself from being father to being the son God uh in the veil God changing his mask God masked the pillar of fire god mastered A Man Called Jesus and what people are wondering about is who is this mask called Jesus is he a different person than God will I go to heaven and there's one question I ask of two Lord's people and no one has ever been able to answer me this when I get to heaven will I say hi Jesus nice talking to you can I go talk to your father now it's the real Crux of this godded question that people are wondering about like what is the truth on that am I going to get to heaven and say hey Jesus nice talking to you man where's the father or is Jesus is going to say the same thing he said in the scripture and say no if you're seeing me David you're seeing the father why are you asking me David to show you the father when I've told you in my scripture already if you're seeing me you see the father you say to me people who gave worship to Jesus and they gave worship to the father is there two different gods or is it the same God when I die and I'm in a coffin and you're looking at my body and we know that my spirit's in heaven Lord willing by God's grace by the grace of God am I two persons but where's David is David in the Castro this is David in heaven I think someone put another question they didn't okay so it's it's uh it's quite a revelation there's different ways of looking at this this is not as black and white as people want to be Bible says great is the mystery of godliness for God was made manifest In the Flesh scene of angels Justified received open to Glory it was God manifesting himself to his people we're wrong if we think it's it's uh Jesus is his own father and we're wrong if we think that Jesus was a separate person from the father that we'll see in heaven and say hi Jesus where's the father because Jesus wouldn't say anything different than what he actually said in person if you see me you see the father if you speak if you're speaking to me you're speaking to the father I would ask people I would ask him this that's saying oh well the Trinity's right I would say well if I were to talk to Jesus would he say anything that the father wouldn't I get something different from the father that I get from the son different people if they're different beings same person manifesting himself more God was a father to us God became the son when he created himself in the form of a man and he learned as a man it's a paradox it's hard it's a paradox because in spirit he's God in Men in flesh is many something that we can't understand we can't see but he's God because he's worshiped you know I it's it's uh it's Revelation guys it's not a you know yes changing a mess God amorphic mass in the pillar of fire god amorph it in his church God remorphic and A Man Called Jesus God above us God With Us God in us that screws is smoking it'll also goes right into baptism as well father son Holy Ghost Lord Jesus Christ it is it is an interesting thing what other scriptures do you guys have that are interesting to you um what else do you guys think about this let me find another good quote here what's up now born Trager welcome to life there are so many quotes I have on this there's so many let's see some someone actually asked and then they said uh they said if someone who is a transitarian asks you about ask you what you believe about the god what would you say to them that's a good question I'll get to yours and a second Solomon um if a transparent asked me I said I believe in God the Father God the son of the Lord Jesus Christ and I believe in God I believe that you know God is one but we we believe in one God when you get into semantics is when you disagree because there are actually times where brother abandon would go and he'd be preaching in the 50s to people in different places other than the objectives of Tabernacle and he referred to God as the Trinity of God not to say believed in three gods but we do believe in eternity of the three main offices of God father was Christ still completely God and man when the spirit left him before his crucifixion I.E father father why have you forsaken me well that's a great question um I mean it's nice here hold on well it depends on what you mean by completely God he's at that point he's bearing our sins hahaha and he says oh what people say oh he's a different person definitely because he says my father or my God my God why I start forsaking me that wasn't a man crying out saying oh you've left me you've left me in in the way that he's complaining you know because I've been said like my God my God was there forsaken me that was a man but when he rose again he was God that was actually remember he stole the word because he's never made mistakes he's only ever done what God showed him he is God that body was God he's the DNA of God he's virgin born the blood the uh egg and the sperm were both God so this being this man is Jesus he's literally quoting scripture he's quoting David when he says my my God my God why is Thou forsaken me and whatever Jesus showed us or shows us when he's you know when the spirit leaves him the spirit left him because he couldn't die having all that power of God in him he couldn't die having the spirit in him and all that he um he dies a man but at the same time his DNA was God his life was God if he was not God there's a source of perfection outside of God he lived a perfect life but somehow he's not God it would be what do you mean by God they worshiped him as a man God the way that he's all-powerful the father if you touch the mountain you die and he's Invincible that wasn't the office there he changed himself so that he could die God could not die as the Eternal Father brother Adam said but he made himself into a way that he could die uh as in was he still deity well it uh is it Evan I think well it depends on what do you mean by deity are you deity you have deity in you it depends on what you mean by deity I guess first John 5 and 7 is always fascinated okay first John 5 7. for the three the bear record in heaven the Father the word and the Holy Ghost and these three are three no no is that what it says that's what they wanted to say the three of the barrack in heaven the Father the word of the Holy Ghost and these three are one and three persons no 50 or one so I mean you know uh let's see here another question came in what about what about Revelations 3 and 21 someone says well let's pull that up this is good stuff guys thanks for the engagement Revelations 3 and 21. are there three Thrones to him to overcome with blood Grant just hit for like Grant to sit with me in my throne even as I also overcame and I'm sat down with my father in his throne are they sitting in let me go this way guys is that throwing a chair do you really think they're referring to a chair he's sitting with me in my chair is there like a compartment in a chair is there a place in the chair that they are sitting do they think they're talking about Throne let me show you Isaiah chapter 66 last chapter of Isaiah I believe it starts with thus saith the Lord the heaven is my Throne of the earth is my footstep footstool yes I was right God is right I was just right about the uh where the scripture was Isaiah 66 and 1 thus saith the Lord the heaven is my throne and the Earth is my first stool where's the house that you build into me and where's my the place of my rest so when he's saying I you know and Revelations chapter 3 here about The Throne thing hold on to him that overcometh will I grant us to sit with me in my Throne it's heaven and it's also a position of power the throne is in the position of the remember we will judge know you're not the saints of God shall judge the Earth we will judge the world after the uh Matthews up after the battle of Armageddon and the uh I may be wrong about that please don't quote me on that part but we do at some point judge the world uh in my Throne it's heaven in this position of power where we are joint heirs with Jesus Christ and we are his bride and we have the authority that Jesus Christ does these doctrines are not just about this semantic versus that semantic is he a Son of God is he the father or whatever this is what it pertains to us we don't believe in a trinity because God is not a father that hates you and just wants to do judgment on you and a son that wants to give you Grace and a dove flying around he's the same God he is the same person he created man under his own image and after his own likeness a spirit man with multi multiple parts of you and he came down in his own image and after his own likeness and he died so that he could rise again oh you can't kill God what do you mean by kill he killed the flesh the flesh was was uh what's the word for a temporal Spirit was eternal it was God I hope that helps every now and then I go back into the preacher thing I guess oh man this one the subject this is the subject I put the most and this is just the tip of the shadow of the iceberg I barely went into any of this stuff man this is so there's so many quotes man there are so many quotes he was God God India's man brother Brown said questions and answers number three 1964. now remember we are not the word but we are the word now you got it Jesus was not God but he was God he was a man yet he was God he could cry and yet he could raise the dead he could cry for men being dead raise him back up again he was Jehovah Jireh Jehovah Rapha Jehovah Manassas he was Jehovah all completely he was in Jehovah and Yeti was a man he owned the Earth and made the Earth and had them a place to lay his head he said the bird that I made is got Ness and have I haven't got a place to lay in my head something up um the birds that I made has gotten this and I haven't got this limited the foxes that I created has holes in the ground and I haven't even got one myself even to be buried and that's right you had to borrow somebody who screwed to be buried him he created a womb that was in a woman he had no womb to be born in he had to borrow him he created the Earth and had a place to be buried and he had to borrow a uh to hold the ground to be buried and Joseph Arimathea see they had to had to borrow a place that he was gone proved he was God now you understand we are not we are Messiah X but not that Jesus he is our father we're just Anointed with his spirit and that's the reason why his life and that gets people see if you don't sit and think it enough it gets people to believe well this guy would be the Messiah sure he is but this this one over here could be they both are see well then how can there be two of them there's thousands of them see but you see his life is separated on the day of Pentecost when that Pillar of Fire came down it separated like tongues and said upon each of them God dividing himself among these people between because the church and Christ is one just as the husband and wife is one brother bear said in another place he is before all things quote scripture all right 1965 and knoweth it not amen amen the what first point of every creature Let It Be Angel let it be any what it may be he's the firstborn of every creature quotes here by him all things created all within heaven or in Earth visible invisible whether they be Thrones whether they be dominions principalities Powers all things were created by Him and for him Let It Be anything it might be no other being notice and in and he's therefore he is before all things and by all things consist whether it be father son Holy Ghost whatever it is he is before all things before all this in heaven in Earth visible invisible or anything this son of God was before all things that's right I don't care it's Thrones dominions whatever it is Heavenly Thrones kingdoms whatever it might be in the great Supernatural Realms Beyond in the eternities where it was wherever it was Angels Gods whatever it was but he is before all things amen can't you see him he was before all things and were created by Him there you go always this different was looking it's also like you know the logos that comes out and he begins to ooh over the people in the waters and come down the mask of the pillar of fire and things like that um it was 4 and 14 scriptures that I read all the time is Psalms 18 and 1-3 let's go to the scriptures Hebrews 4 14 let's go to that why not seeing then that we have a great high priest that is passed into the heavens Jesus the son of God let us hold fast our professional but when it is a titles these are not a oh well Jesus God son just like I'm the son of my dad it's not the same thing so manifestation it's a it's a it's not the same thing as my dad and I it's not the same um for Psalms 18 and one through three is another good one let me see Psalms 18 1-3 it's a cheap uh see I will love thee oh Lord my strength the Lord is my rock and my Fortress and my deliverer my God my strength in whom I will trust my Buckler and the Horn of my salvation in my high tower I will call upon the Lord who is worthy to be praised so shall I be saved from mine enemies amen see who do we still have honey by the way Lillian Mary Evan Emily Daniel porches very cool what are the questions you guys have Emmanuel what's up Ellie and Emmanuel hello another question came in I'll be right back another good question came in guys let me pulled up here let's take it apart if he is before all things then how can you say he was created wouldn't he be counted with the rest of creation a question let me see wouldn't well let's go to the scripture Colossians 1 and 15. and let's look at who is the image of the invisible God the firstborn of every creature for by him were all things created that are in heaven and there in Earth visible in The Invisible whether they be Thrones or dominions or principalities or powers all things were created by Him and for him and he is before all things and by him all things consist and he is the head of the body the church who is the beginning of the firstborn from the dead that in all things he might have the preeminence for it pleased the father that in him should all fullness dwell so I suppose we're talking about Jesus here and the question was we go to the question the Facebook for all things and how can you say it was created wouldn't it becoming the rest of the creation I'm talking when I say created I'm talking about the physical body and soul Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ foreign talking about the uh I'm talking about the um talking about Jesus the one that was created in the uh there you go this is what I'm talking about but the parent says the soul of the Antichrist every one of us no matter what kind of parent we had we were all born of sexual desires only one holy person ever born and that was the Lord Jesus Christ that was created in the wombs of a virgin conceived by the Holy Spirit and he gave his life to redeem us back to God again amen oh I feel religious better so Jesus was created in the wombs of a virgin conceived by the Holy Spirit so I suppose that when you're saying well if he's before all things how he'd be creative what do you mean by he what do you mean by son of God what do you mean by that I don't know I don't know all things um so we were saying you know like uh he's before all things whether we follow us in the Holy Ghost which person you're referring to what do you mean by person you know all these things is not as simple as it seems it's complicated and it's also the revelation depends what you're referring to because it wouldn't be the uh you could say that it wouldn't be the uh Jesus but what do you mean Medusa so it's certainly a uh an interesting thing if it's before all things that how can you say was created well I'll ask you this brother if you were in God's mind before the foundation of the world then how can you say that you were created if you're supposed to live eternally how can you when you were created the difference is is God's spirit God's spirit is eternal the flesh body Jesus died in was not this Spirit of that man called Jesus that learned to cry and learned carpentry and learned and was baptized was temporal he was created both spirit and soul created but the spirit of God that was eternal has never been created he always was and always will be hope that I think God just showed that to me there I hope that answers it for you so if he is before all things what do you mean by he we're not talking about the Eternal God we're talking voices before all things we're definitely talking about the Eternal God the spirit of God but not the flesh that he created not the soul body and spirit that was created Emmanuel a kinsman redeemer God With Us and this is revelation guys I'm not gonna I'm not gonna maybe I've said something tonight we're like oh I get it now maybe you have I I have no idea this is really you know me just winging honestly I'm not like one of these preachers that will come on here one of these times about the godhead and I've been doing this for 30 or 40 years and I've heard all these questions a thousand times and know exactly how to answer it you know I'm not that guy but I can try definitely do my best what other questions you guys have please send them in these are good stuff this is good stuff guys I I enjoy talking about this I really do we want to separate the Eternal being from the one that was created and when you want to try to say that the temporal one that was created was a different person than God Almighty I would refer you to where I'd ask the person to do it for me to where he did his own thing and what they would constitute a person being because we're not going to go to heaven with a bunch of people that are just robots that only ever did what God told them to do we've done our own things that's what makes you a person is when you have your ideas when you do your own things it's when you go against uh what people want you to do it's when you uh Do Your Own Thing of your own personality but if you only ever do the will of someone else then you aren't a uh then you are then the person the person that that Jesus Jesus was that was created this Emmanuel this God with us this man whoever he was he was created he learned as a man but who he was was God himself not got himself in the way there was the eternal spirit but the eternal spirit was in him he was a DNA of God so the way that God creates people giving them a soul body and spirit that's through Virgin birth or there was virgin birth with Jesus and it wasn't through everyone else except for Adam no and Jesus was the second but the second item wasn't going to fail because he was God himself what are the questions guys please send them my wag I get this actually drains me more than a uh more than before I were alive about meaningless things or at least trivial things like relationships matter but they're not Doctrine really you know they're really based on opinion but but this stuff is really vastly important I guess let's see who else do I have that here with me by the way Lily and Mary Evan Laura and Daniel porshas like I said guys this is by Revelation I I don't understand this because I've stated that I although I have sure but it's a revelation God wants to come into our lives and be a part of our lives so he changed himself from being the eternal spirit created himself as the beginning of the creation of God God creates himself as a human being and that human being learns and is filled with God himself the fullness of the god of bodily when he's baptized filled with a spirit and he could still get tired as a man but he could change 5 000 Loaves and Fishes or two two fishes and five lows five fishes and two lows whatever and feed five thousand people because he's got his body he was in his Spirit he was God and then the spirit has to leave him because God can't die as the eternal spirit so by the Bible says as the eternal spirit I got the wording exactly right but the Bible said because Jesus belongs to assist Investments 1963 because Jesus wasn't just an ordinary man Jesus was God he was nothing short of God not just a prophet yet he was a prophet he was the god prophet he was the the house in which all of God dwelt in him was the fullness of the god at bodily God coming down to become man to die God could not die as a spirit because he he could not die he's Eternal and he could not die but God could make himself in such a way that he could feel pain and he could feel and suffer God could not suffer as the eternal spirit but when he became become man he could suffer and feel the the pain and The Temptations that man went through like Adam and Eve in the garden of even everyone since he had to become that in order to fill his unlock he had to take upon himself his own law he could not have been the second person he could not have been the third person he could not have been nothing else but the person see he had to be if I had the jurisdiction of the congregation this morning in the same measure that he has the Earth and I would say if anyone looks at the posts he must die and this young Catholic woman was sitting here would look at the posts well I was well I'd say after all she's just a newcomer among this let her die to death but yet I I feel sorry for another lady I would say don't let this man die here in her place that wouldn't be right well I'd say my son Billy Paul I'll let Billy Paul die in her place that's still not just because the suffering is upon somebody else and leaving me secluded from it that's but the only way I can be just is God is just would be take a bus I got to take advice I just gotta I believe God to show me something from that and be a revelation God was an eternal spirit he's not like us where we're flesh bloody to live in we're temporal he has to create a flesh body to live in Redeemer that can learn so he creates himself as a human being and it's his own person it's a spirit Soul learns as a human being as a man but yet he's God because God creates himself he takes his own life and puts it into one and it manifests therefore God had been manifesting the Flesh in order to suffer death the only way he could die and through that that he had brought Redemption and this young man saw in Jesus something more than the Commandments had so the there you go hope that answers that one for you there's a million other ways of approaching the godhead guys a million or an hour over an hour and a half in still going super cool did I get another question come in I did sweet hold on another fun question was Heaven vacated when Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem good question was Heaven vacated when Jesus Christ was born Bethlehem remember guys we can't understand this by semantics this this is that this is a kind of a semantic but um good question I'll approach it those time my brother Branham did save another question and bring it back okay let's see what's happening vacated when Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem good question we'll ask you this is heaven vacated now when Jesus comes to uh comes is talking to Nicodemus in John chapter 3 and he says the son of man which is before you and then he also says the son of man which is in heaven where was Jesus was he on Earth with Nicodemus or was he in heaven once you can answer that then I'll answer if Jesus Christ was if if heaven was vacated when Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem because when brother Branham said deity's not in heaven it's in you as Heaven vacated of God's presence right now once you can answer that I'll answer that question because that's the way brother Banner approached it but the Branham said let me see if I can find this here um let's see if I can find this there you go brother said in Blasphemous names he says a lady asked me one time I said I said answer this one for me said who did Jesus pray to in the garden in Gethsemane I said who is he talking about when he said no man has ascended to heaven but he that came down from heaven even the son of man which is which now is in heaven who here he is standing here right now on a on a house stop talking to Nicodemus and said I'm in heaven that's right that's right let's leave that's all tonight what do you say clus saying if you could answer when you say uh where's was Jesus in heaven or was he talking Nicodemus see these things are as simple as we want them to be they aren't as of the wise and prudent reveals them to babes I just will learn it's a simple thing especially than you think so as Heaven vacated when Jesus Christ is born in in Bethlehem what do you mean by that because it's different it's different uh Dimensions because when we think that's taking God and putting him into our terminology that's saying God is the parmesan cheese in this container when God is born in Bethlehem is all the parmesan cheese gone out of heaven heaven being this container and God being the parmesan cheese that putting God into our own terms he's God I don't understand God it's God I have no idea honestly I don't have a clue and I don't want to answer one way or the other and be wrong so sure on that one guys that's a really good question but I would say that we don't think of things the way that um the world does we don't think of these things in uh in worldly terms spare Revelation these terms don't mean the same that we think they do what other questions you guys go please send them love that demonstration well thank you yeah parmesan cheese and Roman that's delicious guys it's mwah it's delicious it's amazing but it's not the same thing so when you know we're thinking about oh well God poured himself into Christ was God in a container poured something else into a different container what about this container that's left it's the same thing so was Heaven vacated when Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem what do you mean by heaven and wouldn't even vacated because heaven is a different dimension and it's not the same as our dimension what did John mean in Revelation we said I saw a new Heaven and a new Earth God probably meant that he saw a new Heaven and a new Earth Daniel I don't know the uh the intricacies of that I don't know all the details of that ask your pastor that one because that's a very deep question I I don't know I gotta be honest guys when I don't know something I don't know I'm sure that's I'm sure there's like a perfect fast answer that brother Jonathan Jones or brother Howard curl would have I don't have that though guys I don't if you want to know where brother Branham called or said that Jesus was God I can show you I can show you what brother the Bible said if you bake Jesus any other person got himself you're lost I can show you that I can show you where even said even Satan was fooled thinking that Jesus wasn't God if you'd like but I can't I can I can leave you guys to the water but I can't make a drink it's between you and God it's a revelation maybe God wants you to uh not know it for a while who knows I have no idea but I'm doing my best doing my best what are the questions you guys had seriously guys more I can still go for a while so what more questions do you guys have for me questions what about you John Lillian Emmanuel Evan Laura Daniel questions thoughts comments concerns please send them away or even something you heard from uh from someone that didn't believe the same way but you didn't know someone did send something in saying uh about baptism but that's a separate Quest that's a separate that's a separate discussion that I won't answer right now so it's dispatches a question there's someone's bad president of Jesus Christ and that the Lord Jesus Christ are they Baptist is wrong thanks as far as that well the way that they baptized and John Acts chapter 9 was in the name of Jesus Christ as far as that goes I don't know ask your pastor that that's something I have no idea honestly what's up sis uh I don't know your first name sister Shelley what is your last name or I mean not your last name your first name so that I can refer to you correctly every time you join our live actually your dad probably have much better answers to these questions than I have but hey we do our best um like is it sister Shelley or is it just lives because I'm sure lives is not your uh real name sure I think she got offension left guys because she's no longer alive it's all good it's all good more questions guys do you guys have any other uh any other questions what else do we have here John Lily Burgess hello what questions do you guys have I I've gone through a lot of these and there's different ways that I could approach it but really this is for you guys this is um to help and to try to take you know listening to a bunch of different sermons 100 times or each or so and put it into uh answering these things try to help we'll see you guys Scott uh for me what what other questions do you guys have um I can tell you guys the sermons to listen to to know more about this who is this my kids dick the unveiling of God the Mighty God before us the god of expanding Christ is the mystery of Beyond revealed those are all very good also if you'd like I can send you over the or give you the sign in to my Evernote account so you can see every single quote in scripture I've ever compiled on it and there's a few thousands that I've compiled on it because what I say it means literally nothing about the got it all right whatever is the scriptures of the quotes those things mean something it's whatever we say it's going to line up with whatever uh with whatever but the brand have said anything else guys um let's see where do I start one illustration I heard a couple years ago from someone was that the God has three different tools but made the same material well if I were to ask you Evan um if you being a son a brother and a cousin is you being three different tools compared to the same material which I I would say I I would have to ask them what they mean by tools and made of the same material um three different tools I said that's kind of one God in three persons honestly I wouldn't say that that is the exact way that we believe it um three different tools they're not three different persons they're the same person the same god Jehovah of the Old Testament is the Jesus of the new is the same God he's just manifesting himself in different ways and not even in different ways making it worse not himself but he's the same God in in himself before the foundation of the rule he wanted to be a father a son a Holy Ghost and holy spirit a savior A Healer a deliverer a friend and he couldn't be those things unless he created men and women and different things angels all those different things to just say that fathers and Holy Ghost has three different tools but men at the same material I wouldn't say that's quite right I would say that it's the uh Swiss army knife sure will be one way but I would say it's uh the Indescribable God form uh Mass I don't know why they're calling me because I'm doing a lot check my app thank you do you guys have any more questions before I wrap this up let's see I wouldn't wear it as three different tools I know that what they're trying to say but definitely don't want to use the word different it's accept your right Sister Laura amen that's right so what's up Lily welcome to the party an hour and 45 minutes late it's okay we'll we'll be upset at you for that keep in mind I didn't say this it was someone else like one person said calling different people say this you know in different ways you know three different tools but the same material no it's three different offices but the same God three different manifestations but the same God am I a different person to Thomas than I am to my dad or to Joshua or to Mom or I'm a different part of myself but I'm not a different person but I'm not God God creates a man in his own language after his own likeness things like that what about you Lily did you have any uh hold on let me text Caleb Smith here and Tom that I'm all live I'm literally doing alive right now LOL live right now law oh you're finding to worry about it um but you Lily or she left okay I'm gonna ask her what questions she had um okay bye that's fun there's all these questions are you know we could wrap them up in this when we get to heaven will we see father God Son God Holy Ghost God Holy Ghost God nice talking to you where's the father father God nice talking to you where's the Sun or whether they be the same person like Jesus said if you've seen me you've seen the father if you believe in me you believe in him that sent me you can't have the father where that happened the song you have the sun right now but you don't have my dad if that makes sense but I can't say if you've seen David you've seen Tom cochain maybe some characteristics but I'm different from my dad I'm not the same guy I have some of his characteristics of me but I am my own dude I am my own person I went to Baptist Church school when I was younger and they used the egg analogy to describe it oh goodness the egg analogy oh great isn't that just beautiful well here's the problem Evan with the Trinity and the Oneness and the two Lords is they're taking trying to take something that's only revealed by Revelation and take away their Revelation the Bible says great is the mystery of godliness there's no mystery if there's three Gods there's no mystery if Jesus was his own father if there's three different gods there's no mystery and you can explain the god easily there's just three different persons but when you say it's the same person the three of manifestations it can only be understood or known by revelation these people these people taking these uh different uh doctrines and making them into different uh ways of understanding it you're taking away the the mystery it's a mystery not something that can be understood just like that oh Jesus is his own father he's the father he changes himself into the son he pretends to die and then he goes back to being God again no it's just not quite right what's up Ruth welcome to the line welcome back Let's see we got Lillian Ruth Evan Colin Niecy Laura Daniel and Cheyenne Paris what about you Cheyenne Paris what do you think what are your thoughts Ruth Daniel porshas everybody patreon guys this is a collaborative environment here's one thing John also that Jesus also oh I'm with you law I think I appreciate it and thanks uh John 5-19 then answered Jesus and said unto them listen to Evan sometimes when I talk about things people think I'm talking against them I'm not I'm I'm saying against the incorrect thought of it never the person like if I'm preaching against a particular wrong thing that someone's doing it's never against the person that's against the spirit so it's like Evan gets some dinner at all it's the never it's against uh you know whoever said something or whatever they were saying and even if someone's or even if I got someone a Pentecostal that thought there's three different gods I wouldn't be saying that he was wrong I'd be saying what he was saying was wrong separating the person what they're saying from the person I say if I have a 19 then answer Jesus and send to them verily verily I say unto you son can do nothing of himself what would he see it the father do for what this thing so ever he doeth these also doeth the sunlight was include this relationship between Jesus and his father is different from my relationship with my dad because I can do things of myself this live is things of myself you did nothing of himself but what do you see it the father do uh what is the technology well let's Google it shall we what is the godhead egg analogy it is the analogy of implied to God's just the only one being exists but this being exists in three different parts just like an egg another parts of co-equal none or are all the parts necessary for the egg to exist so like there's a yoke the orange there's the orange stuff the white stuff and then the shell three different parts of the same guy but that's just not quite true with God because all that God was according to Christ all the Christ was important into the church so it's like it please the father that in this son in Jesus would all Fallen as well so whatever God was was Jesus all of God there wasn't the father somewhere else saying oh son to this Sunday that all the God was supporting to Christ and all that Christ was he forced into the church that's why that certain part of it is wrong they believe that the three parts of the egg the shell yoke and white illustrate the godhead oh yeah yeah it's not quite true because it's not the whole the father isn't one-third of God the son isn't under the third and the Holy Ghost and the third it's the same God it's all of God me being a brother to Thomas isn't one-third of David and then being a Salesman to tear point a different third um in a a son to Dad a different third I'm the same guy all of me is the same guy but they want to separate God and say a different person so okay um any other questions guys any other uh questions at all Jesus was God and flesh yep that's exactly right Cheyenne also no one who's been joined very cool Jesus was God and flesh but the brim said Jesus was God 32 times brother said Jesus Is God seven times but man even said one place Jesus is God in flesh no argument about that that's right all right guys any more questions any more things at all except I've been going for almost two hours all right I'll do one last question guys then I'll end it give me one last really good question oh interesting I've not heard it like that oh well there you go but Andrew probably would have better answers for these than I would what's up brother Andrew how's it going just answering questions about the guy that had the best that we can right now I guess we're not expressed by any means not at all I just happened to uh it is the subject I have studied more in the in this message than any all the subjects put together and I have quoted probably 30 quotes during this and I've got uh hundreds of quotes compiled about it so guys one last good question about the gun and then I'll uh wrap it up for tonight because I got a song in the morning one last question guys what's the question you could even leave a live go on my store instruments if they're not gonna lie a link if you want I don't care whatever works for you guys foreign again I've said the several times that people when they join they'll know the godded is by Revelation it is not my understanding I can try to uh show over the Bible says different things about different ways of looking at it but none of this is my understanding this is uh their revelation I'd rather have Revelation than all the understanding that could be I'm going to have a revelation from God and God revealing himself to us scriptures about different ways of looking at it but ultimately it's up to you and God but that's the only thing that you don't need a revelation understands the guided because this literally staring you in the face but when it comes to you understanding these things about who is Jesus and how is he not his own father and things like that that's that's my Revelation that's not a that's not an awesome thing that I can explain and one last question I'll do guys so there's another question here I'm sitting there one question I'm here guys go ahead I'll give you guys a man here to think of one foreign I'll do one last question on the gothead thing you know and then I'll do Joseph Andrew brown tiger hello welcome to the live one last question guys um hey what's up Leah we are almost two hours into the godhead thing and this is mostly just me winging this uh I've quoted a lot of scriptures and quotes but but mostly just remembering pulling them up on the table over here um I didn't have a bunch of notes all written up for this um foreign but uh I'll do one question give me you guys can give me one good question about the godhead uh that you want to have answered and then I'll uh leave it from there I might do another live tonight just hanging out with everybody doing some fun q a I don't know yet I'm not sure but what what do you guys uh what do you what would you guys like to ask me about the godhead and it's not going to be me answering it from my own opinion I'm just gonna find the most relevant quote that I can to it honestly that's what I'll do my best I've actually done I've quite a few times in this live we're saying well I have this way of looking at it and I'll show you also where the band approached it the same way because that's my goal with this is not to ever have my own opinion or my own way of looking at things but really just to quote but whatever brother bear said on this I have this funny thing where when brother Branham says something I do it and I believe it the way that brother Benham said it and that's basically it I don't have I don't have a thought coming I don't have the opinion coming I don't have a perception coming it really just is whatever brother bam said to what I'm gonna do there's no one to say anything then I'll just uh I'll read you my opinion one of the best quotes to write about Memphis but the Branham said in the Ephesian Church age foreign he will not share with another there is no Pope with him there is no Archbishop with him Mary the mother of his Earthly body is not with him he does not speak and turn to a father for he is the father he does not turn to give orders to the holy spirit for he is God eternal spirit and it is his life that is flowing and pulsating in the church giving her life and without him there would be no life salvation is of the Lord there was no one with him when he tried the fierceness of the Wrath of the fiery furnace it was not another but him who hung upon the cross and gave his blood he is the author and finisher of our faith he is the Alpha and Omega of our Salvation we are espoused to him and not another we don't belong to the church we belong to him his word is law Creeds dogmas by laws by laws and Constitution have no effect on us yet yes it is Jesus alone who walks in the midst of the churches it is God in her willing and doing of his good pleasure never forget that you have only one relationship to God and God has only one relationship to you that is Jesus and Jesus alone so that's the truth said just whatever he says that's just what I go with pretty much any last question guys um let's see I still got uh Lillian Seth Leah Laura and Cheyenne questions pretending to God Head that I can go through have you guys see you heard anybody else on here Mariah Shelley hello Mariah what's up Brianna hi well I'll do one last question it could be it could be even about something similar it wasn't and I've been quite the God if you want I can try to answer that as long as it's relatively relatively relative relatively relevant I guess um I'm still getting to understand the guide so give me a good quote that can talk us about the guy that I could study sure yeah okay let me find a real good one here I agree God is revelation sorry I can't think of a question just listening well that's fine Cheyenne I'm glad you're listening glad you're uh Roger I hope hopefully you're enjoying it but here's what a good quote sister outlier okay remember I'm sitting questions and answers in 1959 somebody says brother Branham is a Oneness no sir I am not a Oneness I do not believe that Jesus could be his own father I believe that Jesus had a father and that was God but God dwelled and tabernacled in this body called Jesus and he was Emmanuel God With Us and there's no other God besides this God his father Son and Holy Ghost and the name of the father son Holy Ghost father the Lord son Jesus Holy Ghost logos spirit of God father son Holy Ghost Lord Jesus Christ that's him and in him dwell the fullness of the godhead bodily foreign Trevor said last night in life we don't want to get into war we're just like oh well uh I'm right you're wrong it's not right words we're trying to figure out what we're trying to get Revelation from God so Leah says I just got here and I don't really have a specific question but I'll have to go back and listen to this well I appreciate it I uh a lot of it is me just figuring out what the thing would have been I kind of just winged this whole thing uh if you guys actually I can I can show you what notes I have here which is almost little almost none um I'll show you guys these were all my notes I had for all this by the way everything was just from memory script people all the different things why is David talking about the guy David qualified definition of God did too many ways to look at it um the quarter by the Branham understandings by Revelation otherwise this is not to argue this is to help and then two different things so really this is just from being listened to it so the sermons that I'd recommend for anyone to Listen to Sister Lillian if you really want to know more about this listen to because there's Revelation there's understanding to help because I think we should have a basic understanding of it the God had explained 1961. who is this dick 1965. crisis mystery of God revealed in 1963 the Mighty God though before 1964 and the unveiling of God 1964. the if you listen to all those about five times each you get a much better understanding because those are the ones that directly talk about the guide like we unfortunately don't have a sermon brother by Adam said hey I'm going to talk all about uh relationships in this one you know imagine the fourth sermon they had serpent seed hit the seals and he had godhead guys one of his main god is one of these major doctrines and it directly relates to uh baptism as well because right after brother Branham goes through uh Jesus not being his own father he goes through uh he goes to baptism and what we're thinking because I do understand it but there's always students today of course yeah you just we want more Revelation from God when what we're seeking to do is to bring someone to the truth we're not seeking to find someone to argue with about this we're looking for people who say well I've been taught my whole life that Jesus was just a second person the Trinity what do you mean he's not the second person but he is the person how could he not how could he be the father is he what do you mean you know people are actually curious who want to actually be able to show people in the scriptures these different things how that there was a promised kinsman redeemer and a promised savior and a redeemer that came and it was God himself coming down to his people and these different things but the band said and the guys had explained now God cannot be three people three Gods neither can be Jesus can Jesus be his own father in one see so you see it makes both radically wrong now and if you'll just notice there's no place if we got three Gods we're heathens now we know that like you said to me one time when I was talking to him said which one of them is your god which one is your God the Father the Son of the Holy Ghost which one's yours and I said what there's no three Gods I said he said you can't Chop God up in three pieces and give them to a Jew and give them to a Jew I said no sir I said when John Rin had been healed behind this there at Fort Wayne you know and this grab up here Michelle or Fort Benson Harbor he said you can't shop God it's no three pieces and give them to a Jew I said certainly not I don't I said Rabbi would it be hard for you to believe the prophets he said no I said Isaiah 9 6 who was he talking about to us a child is born a son is given be called counselor the Mighty God the prince of peace and the Everlasting father he used to be called to the Everlasting father but he's not he said that was the Messiah said then Rabbi what relation will Messiah be to God he said he will be God I said that's what I thought so the God explained listen to it that's all I can do all right guys this has been super fun it's been super cool I may do another live at 11 30 or something like that just having fun I don't know I'm not sure but it's been awesome let's see who I stood with me Lily Robson Lilia Laura Seth and shine okay hopefully you guys enjoyed this I prayed and land it verses of the father uh thank you for this night thank you Lord I hope that I did things at least in the way that you think I should do them I hope that the questions were answered in a Godly way in a way according to the description in the Bible and I hope that it is a edifying and helpful hope that it was something good we certainly to want to do whatever he wants to the Lord it was as well go to sleep help us all have a great church services tomorrow I'll be with me as a song good Lord you know the many things going through my mind um when you're so sorry the way you want me to Lord let's call this thing that's the name of the Lord Jesus Christ amen all right hope you guys enjoyed this certainly enjoyed making it and it's just the tip of the iceberg there's still a million different ways to look at it and to approach it into still a million more questions to ask it's just a lot but God bless you guys